WIPp 016 Louise Robbins: from Nursing to Nutrition coach & CrossFit Trainer

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Louise worked in Australia as a registered nurse. One day, she decides she wants a change — a big change. She leaves her job and books a flight to the UK, and in her own words “wings it”. Everything from where to live and what to do once she lands is undecided. Her adventure hits some rough patches as she navigates nursing career in a new country with a completely different system. It is not easy and she doesn’t know anybody. And yet she pulls through. A few months ago, she started working as a CrossFit trainer full time and soon she will launch an online nutrition coaching service.

Here's how and why she made the switch.
 
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spk_0:   0:09
Hi, everybody. Welcome back to the work in progress podcast. Today we're talking to Louise. Louise worked in Australia as a registered nurse, and one day she decides she wants a change, a big change. So she leaves her job and books of flight to the UK, and in her own words, she wins it. Everything from where to live in what to do when she lands is undecided. Her adventure hits a few rough patches. Ash navigates having a nursing career in a new country with a completely different system. It's not easy, and she doesn't know anybody. And yet she pulls through. A few months ago, she started working as a CrossFit trainer full time, and soon she will launch a nutrition coaching business online. You're about to find out why and how she did it. So without further ado, let's get started. Welcome everybody to the work in Progress Park test. Today we're talking to Louise. She spent the last 10

spk_1:   1:11
years in nursing, and she recently just switched to CrossFit training, which is super exciting because I know a lot of people doing CrossFit and I'm I'm really into workout and fitness, but I've never tried CrossFit because it looks so intimidating from the outside. I'm really interested to talk to Louise about her journey, how she transitioned from nursing into CrossFit. So welcome, Louise. Thanks for joining us today. And we are really excited. We have a lot of questions for you. And before I start with the questions, I was wondering if you could give us a little bit of introduction to what you did in the past and how you got into CrossFit.

spk_2:   1:53
Well, thank you both for having May, um, so I've done Yeah, as you said, nursing for the last 10 years on and recently of just started CrossFit coaching. Um, so it was a big, big change for May, but from the reason I start, well, the reason I got into nursing Waas like my love for health and house care, helping people to live a better life on healthy a last style. Um, and then I like I love the nursing and as hard and stressful as it could be, Um, that wasn't really what I wanted to do. I wanted to be able to help people to prevent ill health rather than trade it. Um, So I had a bit of for myself. I with my 18 when I was younger, I was a bit up and down in, like, my weight on that. I wasn't very healthy than I'd like a healthy relationship with food or string king. Um And then I moved overseas to the UK, where I've been living here for 3.5 years from Australia. Um, I started CrossFit the lots of traveling, and I felt like I I gained a lot of weight, wasn't very healthy. And my reason for starting was because I felt unhealthy and I needed to change something. Um, so that's when I started getting into that and I just fell in love with a started training all the time, which then made me eight better. Uh, and then I as I've learned more about it, I wanted Teoh be able to help other people do the same. So I started with doing nutrition coaching. Um, so I did a course on that, started helping people with that, and then I did my CrossFit Level one course. I did an internship, and then now I started coaching and that I'm full time in that, as well as nutrition coaching.

spk_1:   4:10
Wow. Well, first of all, and so excited. You're from Australia because I've been to Australia once. Um, my honeymoon was there, and you guys have the best coffee. Oh, my God. Really Misses. Yes. A Prior to that, I actually went on like a coffee. Like I took a break. And I've always loved coffee. And I started with, you know, like this really sweet, sugary drinks, like the sugary coffee. And then I sort of got into the more refined coffee. And then I decided that maybe I was drinking too much coffee, and I should probably take a break from it. So I actually took a break like it was probably at least a six month break, and I was fine with it. But someone before it went to Australia, some people tell told me that Oh, Melbourne, I think was Melbourne has really, really good coffee. And I was thinking, you know, you know, No, I'm going to stick to my you know, caffeine. Um, like break. But then, of course, when I was in Melbourne, I couldn't not drink coffee. So I got a little cup to try. And your your drinks are obviously different from the American sizes and the, you know, the drinks over here. So I got one and I was just hooked. It was so good. It was not bitter. It was just tastes so good. And I was just fell in love with it. And I have not been away from coffee, Evers. And so I have Australia to think for that. But I really do look really And coffee. And the pages were so amazing. Things are nice. Yeah. Oh, I know. But back to the topic of fitness. What were you like before you started doing finished? Have you always been active your whole life for Yeah.

spk_2:   5:47
So, um, when I was younger, we know Australia's a sporty country, So I had always prayed sports done sports all through school. I played basketball for 15 years, soccer or football for about three or four years. I played cricket for maybe three years. A bit of Aussie rules football. Um did swimming in school, cross country running did like it was like super active. Um, And then when I got to like my late chains, early twenties, that kind of stopped a bit and it became more about drinking, partying? Um, going out. Um, then I would kind of go to the gym, do like, boot camps and things like that. And then once I started CrossFit, it was like a left change off. Almost like being a kid again. I, um Yes, sir. I just loved of this loved CrossFit since I've started, um, it's very like the best thing, but I've done. I see.

spk_1:   7:01
And, um, what was the schooling like in Australia? I imagine that there is, like, you need to spend a certain amount of time in school to get your nursing degree. Maybe. And then you apply.

spk_2:   7:15
Yeah, so we do like 30 minutes of schools or seven years of farmer school, six years of secondary school, and then straight from there. I went to uni and did a three degree in nursing. Um, after that, I got a job in nursing as a Grabner Elswit. So that's a 12 month program. So I worked six months on a geriatric rehab unit on then six months on a medical ward which waas full on and very stressful. Um, off while I was That was like, a lot dinner. If nursing for May is just the right decision. Um, so I decided to stick with it, but good pot time. And then I also did a post grad Get in the health promotion. Um and then So I worked on a surgical ward in nursing, which I loved on, then studied as well on the side.

spk_1:   8:19
And in total you were in nursing for 10 years. Is that correct?

spk_2:   8:23
Yeah. So I was as a registered nurse with the maybe for three years. But while I was studying, I also in a nursing home, just doing that as, ah, personal care assistant. Um, And then when I moved to the UK just because the registrations different over here, I wasn't working as a registered nurse buff Justus, like a health care community assistance.

spk_1:   8:51
I see. How is it the transition moving from Australia to to UK, like you said that some of the richest reduction system was different. And were you able to What was it difficult finding the same rule for you.

spk_2:   9:06
Um, so this was this is like a whole other story. So when I moved to the UK, I dislike, I wanted to come over here really to travel and to try something different. I wasn't ready to settle down and get married and have kids like everyone else seemed to have a, um came over. I quit my nursing and I planned, like, six weeks of travel. And then I had no idea where I was gonna do. I have nowhere to work. I had nowhere to live. I was just kind of winging it, taking a big risk. But, uh, it definitely paid off. Um, did have being, like, no plans. And you just meet so many people traveling. Um, So while I was on one of my two as I met another nurse who was also from Melvin, and she was living over here as well, like, kind of in a similar position to May and she got me a job doing living care. Um, so I started doing that here on bond. That was, like, pretty full on ahead. Cem sad experiences with that, But I also had some really good one. So for the most part of that, I cared for a disabled uni student. Um, and I lived on campus with her in, like, the holes. I was a full time cara. But like 24 7 So I would kind of pub a couple of hours off the debt. And my free time was when while she was in classes, um, and that was in lording him. So while I was there, that's when I started CrossFit. So in my spare time, I would get the bus to CrossFit, go there, do across than me back in time to help Zoe with whatever she needed. Um, And then when she went back to her family for the summer, I decided to move to London on the same girl that I'd met. She offered me a job where she was working, which is a well enough just left. So that was doing community health care that is based in the hospital in West London. And then we go into people's houses when they came out of the hospital and just give them whenever support they needed for the first few days, they've come out well,

spk_1:   11:32
that's amazing. I have to say that the nursing or, you know, people providing care Teoh to the patients or probably including the patient's family, sometimes is. It's amazing the the work you guys do because my dad had a stroke last year and we went back home and it was a really, really stressful year. It still is, but it's not as stressful as you know when it first happened and people that worked in, um, like the nurses, for example, and, um, also doctors. But you really don't see the doctors that that much. Um, most of the time, you're really dealing with the nurses, and I remember feeling like, so lost. It was such a scary experience. But the nurses there, um, there, you know, really attentive. And they really do did a really good job taking care of us and not just my dad, but they were also very helpful with with me and my sister. And it's really amazing that the kind of work that that they providing the value. So thank you guys so much. Okay, Yeah, totally. I think

spk_2:   12:38
it's very, very impactful work, especially for patients and their family. I guess that we were obviously family and the we knew nothing about how to help somebody who is, You know, he needs, like, basic help just sitting up even so like, and there we didn't also like, didn't know where to hire anyone to take care of him. Suddenly we have to do a lot of them the 1st 2 days and the nurses there really word the people that were trying to help us and showing us how to do everything. So it was very, very in particle

spk_1:   13:09
eso. I do want to kind of dig in a

spk_2:   13:11
little bit about your past. Being a nurse. I think I know

spk_1:   13:15
anything. I have

spk_2:   13:16
a personal friend. That's a nurse. Really. We never really talked about like what she does. I work so anything. I was like, What a typical day is like. Okay, so from my last job alike, proper nursing on the wood on the world, eso I would do shift work. So my shifts What we I think I did eight day eight shifts in a fortnight. So it would either be a morning shoot which was seven till 3 30 or the afternoon 1 to 9 30 or night shift waas night until 7 30 I am so we would lacks throw tight with mornings and afternoons, or that we have, like, a block of night ships. Um, so if what's on, like a morning shift, we would all the necessary would make a hand? Eva, We being there. So we would have two nurses that we might have, uh, 8 to 12 patients on that change, depending on the patient load. Or, um, what the patient situation or health was like at that time. Obviously, the ones that were Morrell needed a bit more help. Um, one things could be really busy on a surgical ward. If we've got patients that are about to go into theater, we have to do like a theater checklist. Make sure like they've had any medication. But there no, by mouths of their fasting before their surgery. Um, if I need fluids, um, and then we would take off the not to take them around to theatre. Sometimes we would get well, like later in the morning. We get patients coming back from it, which requires they have to have the obstacles, like blood pressure. Heart rate. It's a trough every half an hour for I think it was two or four hours. I can't remember now. Um, and then, as well as like them medications, pain relief. Um, it could be quite Fillon. Sometimes bacon and like, would have also have medical patients on the ward. Sometimes when there's not enough beds in the hospital. Also, people that have had, like, hot issues. Uh oh. Something else like that. Um, sometimes we get people back from theatre where that they weren't stable. We have to call a medical emergency. Um, so I had a few scary situations like that. We also had a few, um, because it was Ah, maternity hospital is Well, sometimes we would get pregnant women or people that had a miscarriage. Um, and that sometimes could happen on the war, which was, like, horrible troubles to say obey their um, Yes. Like, super busy. You don't really stop the whole day. Um, and then you've also got families. May, most of pretty nice. You get the occasional angry family member, but yes, it was good. It was good, but coming. Really challenging and very stressful. It arms.

spk_1:   16:52
Yeah, that sounds really that sounds really, really stressful. Well, to me. And to send overall very demanding job both yet both physically and you know, sometimes mentally, too, because I enter lately. Yeah, a lot of it

spk_2:   17:05
is, you know, almost like customer service clients. Interaction up Yeah, on that. Because that checking that abs all the time medication and so you can't really have to be thinking. Oh, well, the time, like checking you got everything right. Um especially feel giving, like, injections off, taking bottle. Whatever. It's yes.

spk_1:   17:31
So you said you work eight shows in two days so that make that they hear goes in two weeks. Two weeks, two xy. Oh, I see. Okay, so it's like it was a little four overs. Four week, OK? And each each shift is about eight hours

spk_2:   17:49
yet. Not just 10 hours. Yeah, Okay. Oy. But that that will, like very between hospitals. Like some places do 12 hour shifts.

spk_1:   18:00
Um, okay. And would it be like to shifts in a day? Or it will be to shoes in per day. I mean, I'm sorry. One shift per day.

spk_2:   18:08
One chief per day. Yeah. Okay. Occasionally, it's like do a short stuffed. I've done a double shift. So, like, seven. I am told 9:30 p.m. It is obviously a very long day, messing. Yeah, but that that was it. Often

spk_1:   18:26
Hell is about what was always like the first time you did crossfit.

spk_2:   18:31
Well, the first time, Waas. Well, pretty scared to say the least. Uh oh, I guess it is. Every new person walking into a big Jim seeing people do all these crazy things. Obviously, CrossFit could be scalable to any level. So anyone can do it no matter what your age or fitness level is. Um, but that Yes, I said it. I started to my 1st 1 then cross street, noting him and I did a trial session, and there must have bean maybe 25 people in the class and then may just starting say it was scary, But there was two coaches at the time there on, um, they helped me adjusted the workout so I could do it like everyone else. Ah. And then from there we had to do an induction, which is where I had one coach teach me 1 to 1 on the left. The foundation movements of CrossFit. Um, so then that made may, like, more comfortable know what to do said that I could start doing classes with everyone else. So, yes, this is just like learning that cross, but it's a whole other language of if you've ever seen all the words and abbreviations or you. So it's just like getting you stool that on then, um, learning how to? Or the coach would always help us to just the work out to your ability. Um, but and I picked it up fairly quickly. Ah, and there's like lots of parts across for people like Olympic lifting the gymnastics component. The cardio stars, like throw is a eggs. Blacks running, um, everything. And it never gets boring. That social

spk_1:   20:33
sounds like fun for those of us who haven't tried crossed it. Can you talk about like, like at a high

spk_2:   20:39
level? What is cross fade? What's you know, what's kind of workout is included. And if I am a total beginner, where do I start? Okay, so we'll cross the It's kind of now become what has become a sports like the sport of fitness. So the highest level would be like the CrossFit games. So that's kind of the Olympics in the CrossFit world. Lang. The the highest level you can get to, uh, and then I've I compete. Quite a look now, Um, but at the beginning it was more just like learning the basics. And then so every every session. If you're doing like oh, Class, it would have a warm up, a skill or strength piece and then a workout at the end. So for the workouts, they can be anywhere from, like, full of minutes toe 40 minutes sec, depending what it is for that day. So they could be super fast pay so they could be Long Girl. Slower. They could be heavy workouts, but they're always different. Never, never gets boring. Never repeat a workout. Um, there's so many different movements and different things that can being included as you go on. There's like more progressions to the skill, Um, making things harder once you've must in skill, you find a way. Don't make it harder on learning you challenge.

spk_1:   22:21
So have you ever been injured doing CrossFit because it looks so physically demanding? No, no, I had I've

spk_2:   22:29
had, like, a few little sayings like I hurt my hand a while ago, and that was kind of disliked. Scar tissue built up in my wrist. But after this got traded, um, after a week, it was fun. Lots of people well hang get injuries that common, but it's just a common, as in any other sport or doing anything else. Repetitive, Lee. Um but I always make sure warm up really well. Um, look after my body. Eight. Well, stretch, make sure I get plenty of sleep, so I couldn't avoid injuries as much as I can. What was the moment that make you realize? Oh, I don't want to do nursing full time anymore. I actually want to do this other thing that I'm really passionate about. Um, low cause my job that I was doing in London, um, that was working long, Guys, I didn't do shift work here because there was that community health care, But my days will be like, eight till eight. So I did have cause it was community. I did have some, like, free time, all like downtime during the day, which we didn't I don't really have anything to do, so I would just go and train in those hours, which was pretty cool hum. But as I wasn't a registered nous in the UK, the pay what I was doing wasn't like that Great, but working long days kind of made up for it. And then it sounds like training a lot. And but I would do work like three or four long days during the wake. And then sometimes I would coach whenever, um, they needed cover, which was cool. And I really loved that. And then I was like, Yeah, okay, this is what I wanted to do. Um, I like, really supportive people around May that encouraged me to do it, because originally, I was like, Oh, no, I can't Courage. I'm No, I'm not a good enough athlete to be able to do this yet, but, um, with their left support, they encouraged me to do it a limb like Okay, yeah, I think I can do this. Uh, and then when I started, just, like, loved up on it came, like, fairly quickly and naturally to make, So, yeah, it was like, Yeah, this is it. Now I want to get out of my nursing

spk_1:   25:07
job. How long after you started doing CrossFit? Did you start to coach people?

spk_2:   25:15
Um, almost two years. So I start across Rich in February 2017. So almost three years ago, And then I did my level one at the stuff in January last year, so I actually and they've been coaching for probably eight or nine months, and that's only part time. So when they like full time the last a few weeks, when I've just got a new job.

spk_1:   25:47
I see. And was it, um So your level one, um, certificate? Was it like like a training certificate?

spk_2:   25:59
Yes. So it's just like a two day course, but face to face with group of other people that are also doing it. Um, But prior to that, you there's a whole book to raid and lots of things to study in land, something people that through that level one have never done and ate crow straight. Beautiful mom for me because I had already done it quite a while. My boyfriend's coat had been coaching like six or seven years, so I obviously could learn a lot from him. So, yeah, I didn't find it too challenging.

spk_1:   26:40
I see. Yeah, well, I would think that if you don't have any prior experience going into, um, a CrossFit and then you're taking the trainer coach trainer certificate, that's pretty. That's a bold move. It

spk_2:   26:55
is that, like, one of my friends did that and analyzing coach so

spk_1:   27:01
can happen. Wow, I'm so impressed I see. And after you. So you got the certificate And how were you or how were your clients finding you where they just friends and family? Or there were people that were at the gym?

spk_2:   27:18
No people from the gym, so well, my boyfriend coaches and I also trained. I kind of already knew everyone. I did my internship there, so I did, like, 25 hours off watching the other coaches. I take notes and then also having them watch May as well and assess May. So I already knew everyone, which made me more comfortable. I could get. I could get pretty nervous sometimes, but coaching actually of maybe a little bit. But I didn't feel like I've been really that no vessel scared on. I just made sure I always prepared for my closet. So I knew exactly what I was doing. Being able to do stool like the movements and dimmer than myself made a lot easier.

spk_1:   28:16
Got it? And how how do you prepare for for your session? And have you ever tried anybody who you don't know? So it's a complete stranger coming in, and you have to, you know, how do you go about doing that.

spk_2:   28:32
So to prepare for the session, though, it's like already programmed by someone. So you have, Like I said, the warm up strength, the skill pace and then a workout. So I would just, like, go through the movements, make sure I know what, um, what Paola had to demonstrate them. So in the class, always memorable what everything is. So people know how to do it. They can see it being done, um, trained, like lots of people that I've never met. So at the start of the class will Oh, I lost If anyone, as like any injuries said that we could adjust any movements for that, Um, and it when I started my new job, like a few weeks ago. Is that a new gym? And I didn't know anyone there. Um, so from black now, which was which was fine. I wasn't nervous. It'll but it's just getting to know each person what they could at what they need to work on and like their strength. So being able to help them to adjust the work out to, like a white or movement that's appropriate for their level

spk_1:   29:47
and how much of that assessment comes from yourself, and or do your clients tell you this is too hard for me or you know they want to try? If you ever have those people who are really eager to try new things But you think, yeah, you know, you your judgment tells you that maybe they should ease into it, so you kind of tell them not to. So how does that work?

spk_2:   30:10
Yeah, usually I'll tell them. I'll say, Um, I put today. I would rather you do this then, um, have bad technique doing this movement, for example. So ah, mostly time. Well, listen to May. Sometimes we white, I said, OK, do whatever. Oh, but most of the time I get I respect the coach them and what they're telling them. So as long as long as you say it nicely to them and have a good communication with your clients, I think that's really important.

spk_1:   30:52
And so for people that I guess,

spk_2:   30:54
let's say there are regular for profit. How do they continue to still, you

spk_1:   30:58
know, have like that muscle stimulation if they, you know, happened doing it for years, it's crossed. It kind of like one of these other, like finished curricular like zoom barley body pump at, you

spk_2:   31:09
know, like every so often there's like a new released. So there's a new quote unquote routine that instructors contingent eso back. As I said, it's never the same workout. It's always getting harder. Or like, um, for example, handstand walks. If you've ever seen a CrossFit are moving on their hands, something I love to make that harder, I might walk on my place. It's no like white plates or up a ramp or around obstacles or say you have to do 10 meters unbroken, which means you have to do 10 meters without falling over. Um, will you go back to the beginning? Um, say if it's like double unders, which is skipping where the rope passes Tewes under your feet with every jump. Um, if people have got those which full of people struggle with to begin with, including May, then there's, like, triple under. So that's making that really hard. If it's like weight lifting, its just trying to get stronger, so they better technique as well. For that, um, yeah, always something to work on or get better at

spk_1:   32:38
going back to ah your transition from nursing too, to CrossFit. I'm wondering how How was it like when you So you started with part time, which I think is a great idea. Honestly, because, you know, a sudden change. Sometimes it's just really scary, but OK, what was it like when you switch Come to two full time? How it was it where you were you nervous or was it you know, very exciting for you.

spk_2:   33:06
Now, as I was pretty excited, the thing was black I was nervous about is having, like, a permanent job in health deflected. And I chest to the men, kind of being like self employed as freelance writing, which this is that life sounded scary. Not having that kind of security in a way, um, going from having, like lots of lave and sick pay and everything to none of that just being left dependent on myself to make sure I got enough Alice or enough clients in PTO nutrition. Um, that was like the scary part, not the actual black coaching. And that bit that doesn't really stress me up.

spk_1:   33:58
Eso did you know that we're by the time when you

spk_2:   34:01
were about to become full time working as a cross with coach. Did your body have enough client base? I guess, to ensure that. You know, once you make the transition financially, you would still be OK. Yes. So, um, the job that I have cloud ful I would have at least minimal of 50 now is coaching awake, which was fun and enough. And, um, a songs I had that I was okay. Because then I can get Petey clients as well or nutrition clients. So yeah, as others I have, That was like a base that was fine. And then with, uh, all those 50 now is, well, glad Coach class sessions, No 1 to 1. So when they want, Until juan or nutrition clients were just an extra.

spk_1:   34:57
And were they all from the same gym as well? Or they were from, like, freelance.

spk_2:   35:04
No. Yes. So I started a trusted Hammersmith in West London. That's where I do my intern, Um, where I still trained. So I still have nutrition clients there. Um, on. Then I started my new job, which is at CrossFit World's End, which is about how often Ella from my house. So that's where I coach full time and also do to them nutrition and Peattie currents there as well.

spk_1:   35:36
How does nutrition coaching counts in terms of the hour today? Is it Is it basically the same as, um, like your client, uh, books you for, You know, like an hour or a week or something, Or is it more like over the email?

spk_2:   35:53
So, um, the one a world in which I'm studying up for them as a new program. So we're doing an eight week programs that people could stay on eight weeks minimum old longer. So with that, um, we have, like, a body composition scanned on which is, like a hospital grade one that control people like them body fat, muscle mass, um, energy expenditure. Oh, um, and then we'll go through nutrition basics with them. Like what? Macronutrients are balancing meals. What, when? 28 that kind of thing. As well as do online check in. So, um, clients couldn't good message bay whenever they ate or if they have any questions. And then we'll do face to face meetings once a month as well. Um, and then throughout the eight wigs will, um, slowly might be working on different habits. or changing different things. So we'll set them some goals and action steps for them to work on. And then the biggest thing for most people is just having a the accountability of someone checking in with them. And so they know what they're doing, what they're rating and help enough to stay on track.

spk_1:   37:26
So, earlier on you mentioned something that really resonated with me, he said that you So you've always been really interested in helping people with their health. But you are switching from nursing, which is kind of like, uh, you know, when people get sick and if you go to hospital and then they get treated and you help them to I'm more of like I would say, maybe holistic or like a preventative, a method of, you know, going about your health, which is, you know, you work out, Do you eat well? It probably ceaselessly better as a result. And I really, really do see that I really do see the value in, you know, in this. And I think when I was thinking about it when I got older, I started to think more about health in general. That is something that I notice as well is that when you get sick, you get treated, and that is the right way to do it puts it really should start way earlier before you know you get sick, right? You should really do something about your health before you get sick and really, you know, eating well and sleeping well and taking care of your body working out regularly is, I think, the better better way to to do it. And I think that should definitely be the bigger in emphasis for you

spk_2:   38:46
here. As like I've worked well, You don't like 10 years of canasta, a lot of elderly people that's sick, even middle aged people better unwell. And so many like lifestyle diseases that could be so easily prevented if people Newell implemented like a healthy lifestyle, like knowing what to eight, um, exercising, like so many people. Just live, incidentally, last dolls sitting at a desk all day in that working in high stress environment and then no exercising, aiding anything that's convenient, which is usually not good for us. Um, but I love that now I can help people to prevent, hopefully, prevent getting to that point, um, being able to exercise no matter what it is or how easy it may seem. Well, difficult, Um, and just teaching them how toe eight better. There's so many people have just have no idea, like, what's healthy or but it's not. So. I love that I could help people with that now, any I think that's so wonderful that you're able to help people like, you know, like the of two different approaches, both from like the physical perspective and then also from, like the perspective of my understanding, what's good for you and then making sure that you tried to eat. Yeah, for the most part, what do you observe to be some of the common, but maybe like diet or like workouts, problems or like misunderstandings that people nowadays tend Tohave? Um, I guess, just like marketing has a massive influence on people who is healthy and not healthy. Just because something says Oh natural doesn't mean is healthy. Like if you look a like a fruit and nut bar, for example, and it says all natural. But you look a the sugar content, and it's like 20 grams of sugar of that sex five taste spoons of sugar like That's not good. Um, yeah, I just I think that plays such a big part of or foot something like, uh, um, homeless chips or crisps or sweet potato crisps. Doesn't make it healthy. Like the biggest thing is, people just need to ate more vegetables to be able to get more of the nutrients that we made like him. Food food can be used as medicine.

spk_1:   41:34
So what's your typical day like now that you are a coach full time coach, is it still? I imagine it's not eight hours anymore. It's, I don't know. And I'm curious about that. With the light

spk_2:   41:45
less now, um so at the moment, a door mix of mornings and evening crosses. So if I am working on morning, it will be like a 6 a.m. seven. I am 10. 30 on 1 p.m. class. So for four hours, uh, so between, like eight and 10. 30 I'm free. So I could I usually do my training in that time. Otherwise, I could use that time for in a nutrition or p t A meetings. I have, um Oh, I could use it to study or raise. I've never really Just sitting around doing nothing. Um, and then if I'm working at evening, it will be, like, 5 30 to 9 30 So usually I might do some work. I'm definitely a morning person, so I usually get up early, have a coffee, do some work, um, on the computer or try and raid on. Then I'll go and train in the afternoon. And then, um, Goto work in the evening, so each day is kind different. But morning or evening, I work, and then we can smart be three or four hours. So always have the afternoon off now, which is not because I'm always I've always worked weekends, but especially, like the lost two years being in this job when I might not finish. So eight PM means I can't really do anything

spk_1:   43:21
else on the way. Was it every weekend, like both Saturdays and Sundays?

spk_2:   43:28
Uh, it would very let be Sunday, all Sunday, sometimes both, Um, unless Unless I was, um, you had something on? I would usually be working.

spk_1:   43:42
Yeah. And do you find that with the with the advise you give people do they generally follow it or they you know, they say they will do it, but they only do half of it. What? What is that, like

spk_2:   43:57
with nutrition? Coaching? Ah, yeah, Yeah. Um, usually, though, Fuller on. And but with that, like I said, we set some action steps. So that's, like, three things that, though, be focusing on for, um, a few weeks until we have our next made up. So with that, we set them like we decline. Sir, we'll make those things that lack wish. Sure that they couldn't do that are achievable. Safe someone Someone doesn't drink enough water. If they drink, click less than a later, A day would say, ideally whenever drinking like 2 to 3 liters a day. But instead of saying Okay, just drink 2.5. Laters. Um, straight away. It's not really might not happen, So we would say, Hey, let's just aim for 1.5 leaders for the next few weeks. Make sure you've got your drink bottle a glass of water at your desk, Um, or if it's an action step like sleep and they're and they sleep five hours a night, we don't say, Okay, let's sleep. Ida was every night we'll say OK, Let's try and increase it by another 15 minutes to 1/2 in our each night. Um, so we just make them small little steps that irretrievable for them. Um, And then that way, most people are more compliance. And when we're keeping, like doing out chickens of them, we can keep them accountable and make sure they're doing a door. If they're struggling, they can help Teoh change that for them.

spk_1:   45:38
Do you ever get, like, clients who would come up to you and say I have very big invention that in two months, and I just need to be, like, very ready and very fit by. Then tell me everything I

spk_2:   45:48
need to dio. Yeah, we've had a few like that. Um, when I say with eight as a few. Ah, there's three of us coaches that kind of work together that I have a wearing clients. So, um, yet we've had a few people of that cat a wedding coming up. Yeah, um, that's always very motivated for that. Uh, yes. Oh, yeah, way. We wanna We want this to be, like, long, long term and sustainable. We don't really just want Okay. Quickly lose five killers in two weeks. Cause room that's not sustainable. More about teaching them, UM, how to maintain and how to build this into their lifestyle for good and

spk_1:   46:38
then typically, like for bright Sue, do you recommend that they, I don't know, double the amount of time they're spending of the gym and then eat super lean and healthy? Or what's something that's

spk_2:   46:47
more sustainable? Um, so but we'd like to easily will have, at least, like three months working with someone oneto one. So if we're aiming for, if it's weight loss, we say like Trudeau. Four kilos per month. But we always try to aim on the lower side, just so it's achievable for them and more realistic on then, like the slower the white lost, the more sustainable it is. Um, if it's full muscle gain on gun varies depending on how long H precedents being exercising. If they like new to the gym and eating well, they're gonna gain muscle cricket and someone that being doing it for years and already has a lot of muscle. It's gonna be a slow process.

spk_1:   47:42
What's your plan after this? Are there more certificates you could get or are there different rules again. Transition into in fitness.

spk_2:   47:52
Um, I could do my level CrossFit level tour, which a plan to do this year sometime. Ah, little also got, like, specialty courses. So also, crossfit involves strongman's. It is a strong man cost I would like to do, which is kind of odd object? Uh, yeah, movements itself. That's really cool. And gymnastics specialty, um, weight lifting courses. I would love to do all those at some point, um, and that most say starting online nutrition business as well. So for clients, we don't have access to it. The gym that they can we can help online as well said, that will kind of be my long term plan. But for now, more focusing on crossfit and doing like face to face clients

spk_1:   48:49
is that online Course you just mentioned is are going to be your own or is it part of the What's what the gym is doing?

spk_2:   48:56
Yeah, it's going to be my own.

spk_1:   48:58
Oh, that's so exciting.

spk_2:   49:00
Yeah, some I've started, like setting it all up, but it is a lot of work to do for it. And with changing jobs, I've left that on the side for a bit if they want some settled in start Teoh, pick that out. Them work with people in line as well.

spk_1:   49:20
Yeah, Why would be want? Oh, yeah, I know. Me too, because I'm definitely a little intimidated by go into a cross physically. So I feel like I can kind of, like, you know, do it online. Somebody in the dullest, self conscious, perfect fast client. That's good. When do you think it'll it will launch,

spk_2:   49:40
uh, hoping in the next couple of months.

spk_1:   49:44
Oh, that soon. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So I wanted to know what would be some of your advice for people that are hoping to transition, you know, make similar transitions into becoming a CrossFit coach like you. What would you tell them? Okay,

spk_2:   50:01
Um I think just well, first, if the don't in crossfit, that would be a big bonus. Uh, know a bit about it would be a lot more helpful. Um, I think the best way is to just like being involved, being able Teoh, like shadow coaches watch other people. Um, you probably find that a lot of crossfit James will be open toe having that's I might watching in learning from the coach as their coach. Ah, I also did. And internship, as I mentioned early. Also the 25 hours off just watching and then also delivering different parts of the session. So some just the warm up, some just like the skill or strength piece and then some for the work up. Uh, that helped massively because he couldn't also get feedback from the other coaches up. Have more experience. Um, so just watching, learning, getting involved and then trying it yourself and the scary is that could be like having someone else. What? You It's a great way to get feedback and be able to learn from it.

spk_1:   51:19
Well, thank you so much for sharing all these wisdom and your experiences with us. Louise, I feel like we've learned so much from from you about, you know, like, a different way. The more the more ah, the more holistic way to approach health. You should start from the beginning and not, you know, not when you're sick. And so we really appreciate your time. And thank you so much for sharing your story

spk_0:   51:44
with us. Perfect. Thank you. Thanks so much. And thank you. So I will be in touch. Okay. Talk to save Andy by by